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		<title>By: Duncan Wierman</title>
		<link>http://www.duncanwierman.com/blog/in-the-news/karen-hanover-suckered-1000s-commercial-short-sale-launch/comment-page-61/#comment-7784</link>
		<dc:creator>Duncan Wierman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Apr 2011 02:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Update on latest Karen Hanover news
Feds say &#039;spoofing&#039; covered up real estate scam:
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/-297472--.html

Karen Hanover pleads not guilty.  Attorney makes no comment. Trial in August -

Karen Hanover in the mean time fakes blog post from her accuser (Debbie Ciampi)  Karen on her blog create post in which see has Debbie saying Please forgive her as she was wrong , and she thinks Karen is brilliant... and of course I just wrote all I did because I was jealous..  

Karen is one crazy sicko.  I almost feel sorry for her .. 

Karen is also still fighting her eviction.  (She has not paid rent in 2 years ) Unbelievable she can tie up the court so long with objects why she deserves to stay in a million dollar home...</description>
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<p>Update on latest Karen Hanover news<br />
Feds say &#8216;spoofing&#8217; covered up real estate scam:<br />
<a href="http://www.ocregister.com/articles/-297472--.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ocregister.com/articles/-297472&#8211;.html</a></p>
<p>Karen Hanover pleads not guilty.  Attorney makes no comment. Trial in August -</p>
<p>Karen Hanover in the mean time fakes blog post from her accuser (Debbie Ciampi)  Karen on her blog create post in which see has Debbie saying Please forgive her as she was wrong , and she thinks Karen is brilliant&#8230; and of course I just wrote all I did because I was jealous..  </p>
<p>Karen is one crazy sicko.  I almost feel sorry for her .. </p>
<p>Karen is also still fighting her eviction.  (She has not paid rent in 2 years ) Unbelievable she can tie up the court so long with objects why she deserves to stay in a million dollar home&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Duncan Wierman</title>
		<link>http://www.duncanwierman.com/blog/in-the-news/karen-hanover-suckered-1000s-commercial-short-sale-launch/comment-page-59/#comment-6943</link>
		<dc:creator>Duncan Wierman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Feb 2011 13:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You cannot send any evidence to the judge directly.  It will not be even  looked at.   Send it to the FBI!!  

If you a victim of Karen Hanover  - DO SOMETHING!!!  Stop whining and pick up the phone and call the FBI hot-line.. If you don&#039;t you have no one to blame but yourself.

There is now a hotline set up for her and all her victims at 310-477-6565.  Case #  Karen Hanover318E-LA-256665  Special Agent - Paul Bonin.

My last message to those that have used my blog as a place to write your personal feelings about Karen because she was one of your past love interest.... Get a life ..   I am sick of the trash talk.   This was about business.  I don&#039;t care about her sexual preferences.  

Also to the guy who cant write a sentence without vulgarity .. Do you really need to talk that way?..  I am sure you mother would be shocked.  You have insulted the FBI agent, your credibility is shot with the FBI, and you probably at this point have ruined a big part of the case because of your interference.  

If you want to stay updated on the Karen Hanover case  - Read  &lt;a href=&quot;www.duncanwierman.wordpress.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.duncanwierman.wordpress.com &lt;/a&gt;

No further comments allowed on my blog relating to this issue.  Comments Now are CLOSED!




Some of you need to grow up!

Duncan Wierman

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<p>You cannot send any evidence to the judge directly.  It will not be even  looked at.   Send it to the FBI!!  </p>
<p>If you a victim of Karen Hanover  &#8211; DO SOMETHING!!!  Stop whining and pick up the phone and call the FBI hot-line.. If you don&#8217;t you have no one to blame but yourself.</p>
<p>There is now a hotline set up for her and all her victims at 310-477-6565.  Case #  Karen Hanover318E-LA-256665  Special Agent &#8211; Paul Bonin.</p>
<p>My last message to those that have used my blog as a place to write your personal feelings about Karen because she was one of your past love interest&#8230;. Get a life ..   I am sick of the trash talk.   This was about business.  I don&#8217;t care about her sexual preferences.  </p>
<p>Also to the guy who cant write a sentence without vulgarity .. Do you really need to talk that way?..  I am sure you mother would be shocked.  You have insulted the FBI agent, your credibility is shot with the FBI, and you probably at this point have ruined a big part of the case because of your interference.  </p>
<p>If you want to stay updated on the Karen Hanover case  &#8211; Read  <a href="www.duncanwierman.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.duncanwierman.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.duncanwierman.wordpress.com</a> </p>
<p>No further comments allowed on my blog relating to this issue.  Comments Now are CLOSED!</p>
<p>Some of you need to grow up!</p>
<p>Duncan Wierman</p>
<p>If you guys cant keep it business / professional.. then start your own blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.duncanwierman.com/blog/in-the-news/karen-hanover-suckered-1000s-commercial-short-sale-launch/comment-page-61/#comment-6941</link>
		<dc:creator>Rebecca Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Feb 2011 04:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just sent the blog post and link to all my recipients. The day is done! time to enjoy a good book, nice fire and glass of wine and turn in for the night! xo 
No worries Victims!! Justice will provail!!! No one will go un noticed! Good Night! xo</description>
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<p>I just sent the blog post and link to all my recipients. The day is done! time to enjoy a good book, nice fire and glass of wine and turn in for the night! xo<br />
No worries Victims!! Justice will provail!!! No one will go un noticed! Good Night! xo</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.duncanwierman.com/blog/in-the-news/karen-hanover-suckered-1000s-commercial-short-sale-launch/comment-page-61/#comment-6940</link>
		<dc:creator>Rebecca Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Feb 2011 04:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I MEAN WELL OVER 100 RECIPIENTS...MORE LIKE 200. XO XO</description>
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<p>I MEAN WELL OVER 100 RECIPIENTS&#8230;MORE LIKE 200. XO XO</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.duncanwierman.com/blog/in-the-news/karen-hanover-suckered-1000s-commercial-short-sale-launch/comment-page-60/#comment-6939</link>
		<dc:creator>Rebecca Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Feb 2011 04:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I HAVE TO SHARE THIS!!!! I am going to cut and paste an email that is a comunication back and forth between me and another fastracker. And please keep in mine an attachment that was sent with a sworn affidavit from the FBI. Right below.....lol!! What do you think we&#039;re stupid or something Jill???


I know you do!!! How could you not!!! xo 
Most people are missing it, but as you can see, Karen Hanover trusted Jill Duggans enough to toy and play games and inform her tight business partner of her FBI Impersonations. ( Not to mention, Karen was informed with a documented time of my first posting on Duncans blog reaching out! ) that went from Jill Duggans Blakberry right to Karens, with a message to my email where Karen say&#039;s to me &quot; I have been made aware of this Rebecca!! and displayed is Jill to Karen to me...Even calling me a ground mole, Basically ALERT!!) I just sent Karen a message of her ex business partners deceit against her!! LOL...Anyway&#039;s, I knew you would appreciate this. It is great huh! This time the pleasure is all mine! ( I mean Ours! ) Have a great night! p.s. I sent this to approx. 100 recipients from Dallas.





-----Original Message-----
From: Shari Kissee 
To: &#039;Contactbecky&#039; 
Sent: Fri, Feb 18, 2011 7:32 pm
Subject: RE: Sworn affidavit from FBI agent Reg: KAREN HANOVER/ PLEASE READ THIS! IMPORTANT!


I love it!!!  Thanks for sharing!
 
From: Contactbecky [mailto:contactbecky@aol.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 3:23 PM
To: skissee1@comcast.net
Subject: Fwd: Sworn affidavit from FBI agent Reg: KAREN HANOVER/ PLEASE READ THIS! IMPORTANT!
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Contactbecky 
Sent: Fri, Feb 18, 2011 2:20 pm
Subject: Sworn affidavit from FBI agent Reg: KAREN HANOVER/ PLEASE READ THIS! IMPORTANT!
Under attachments is a sworn affidavit from the Federal Agent working this investigation on Karen Hanover. If you read through the affidavit you will see that Jill Duggins ( KARENS CLOSEST EMPLOYEE ) Turns on Karen and turns state evidence against her, saying that she stopped working for Karen Hanover after realizing that Karen Hanover was never intending to get her fastrackers into any multi family investment property&#039;s but, instead Karen Hanover was still trying to pull in more investors into the 30k dollar fastrack program. Karen will be before a Judge facing criminal charges for impersonating a Federal Agent to scare fellow investors and keep them quite. As you can see in this affidavit that there is no way Karen will be able to avoid these charges and a prison sentence that will follow. The FBI conducting further investigations for fraud and the likeliness of these other charges will be set before Karen while she is in custody and serving a sentence on these current charges. I will be attending the coming court hearing this month and would like to submit to the courts, the prosecutor and the FBI letters from all her victims. If you would like me to hand deliver anything on your behalf please email them to me with what ever you want me to hand in. Any questions please feel free to call me at 714-523-1546 Rebecca Smith</description>
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<p>I HAVE TO SHARE THIS!!!! I am going to cut and paste an email that is a comunication back and forth between me and another fastracker. And please keep in mine an attachment that was sent with a sworn affidavit from the FBI. Right below&#8230;..lol!! What do you think we&#8217;re stupid or something Jill???</p>
<p>I know you do!!! How could you not!!! xo<br />
Most people are missing it, but as you can see, Karen Hanover trusted Jill Duggans enough to toy and play games and inform her tight business partner of her FBI Impersonations. ( Not to mention, Karen was informed with a documented time of my first posting on Duncans blog reaching out! ) that went from Jill Duggans Blakberry right to Karens, with a message to my email where Karen say&#8217;s to me &#8221; I have been made aware of this Rebecca!! and displayed is Jill to Karen to me&#8230;Even calling me a ground mole, Basically ALERT!!) I just sent Karen a message of her ex business partners deceit against her!! LOL&#8230;Anyway&#8217;s, I knew you would appreciate this. It is great huh! This time the pleasure is all mine! ( I mean Ours! ) Have a great night! p.s. I sent this to approx. 100 recipients from Dallas.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8211;Original Message&#8212;&#8211;<br />
From: Shari Kissee<br />
To: &#8216;Contactbecky&#8217;<br />
Sent: Fri, Feb 18, 2011 7:32 pm<br />
Subject: RE: Sworn affidavit from FBI agent Reg: KAREN HANOVER/ PLEASE READ THIS! IMPORTANT!</p>
<p>I love it!!!  Thanks for sharing!</p>
<p>From: Contactbecky [mailto:contactbecky@aol.com]<br />
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 3:23 PM<br />
To: <a href="mailto:skissee1@comcast.net">skissee1@comcast.net</a><br />
Subject: Fwd: Sworn affidavit from FBI agent Reg: KAREN HANOVER/ PLEASE READ THIS! IMPORTANT!</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8211;Original Message&#8212;&#8211;<br />
From: Contactbecky<br />
Sent: Fri, Feb 18, 2011 2:20 pm<br />
Subject: Sworn affidavit from FBI agent Reg: KAREN HANOVER/ PLEASE READ THIS! IMPORTANT!<br />
Under attachments is a sworn affidavit from the Federal Agent working this investigation on Karen Hanover. If you read through the affidavit you will see that Jill Duggins ( KARENS CLOSEST EMPLOYEE ) Turns on Karen and turns state evidence against her, saying that she stopped working for Karen Hanover after realizing that Karen Hanover was never intending to get her fastrackers into any multi family investment property&#8217;s but, instead Karen Hanover was still trying to pull in more investors into the 30k dollar fastrack program. Karen will be before a Judge facing criminal charges for impersonating a Federal Agent to scare fellow investors and keep them quite. As you can see in this affidavit that there is no way Karen will be able to avoid these charges and a prison sentence that will follow. The FBI conducting further investigations for fraud and the likeliness of these other charges will be set before Karen while she is in custody and serving a sentence on these current charges. I will be attending the coming court hearing this month and would like to submit to the courts, the prosecutor and the FBI letters from all her victims. If you would like me to hand deliver anything on your behalf please email them to me with what ever you want me to hand in. Any questions please feel free to call me at 714-523-1546 Rebecca Smith</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.duncanwierman.com/blog/in-the-news/karen-hanover-suckered-1000s-commercial-short-sale-launch/comment-page-60/#comment-6933</link>
		<dc:creator>Rebecca Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Feb 2011 01:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a list of 51 victims that I have talked to but when we went to court only 17 of them filed a complaint with the FBI. Since then all 51 and even others that have not been on the list have come forward. It is important for all the victims to contact the hotline number the FBI made available to you. Please do not call Mr. Bonin directly, there is a reason why they put up a victims hotline to call in to. The hot line number once again is 1-310-477-6565 Case# Karen Hanover 318E-LA-256665</description>
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<p>I had a list of 51 victims that I have talked to but when we went to court only 17 of them filed a complaint with the FBI. Since then all 51 and even others that have not been on the list have come forward. It is important for all the victims to contact the hotline number the FBI made available to you. Please do not call Mr. Bonin directly, there is a reason why they put up a victims hotline to call in to. The hot line number once again is 1-310-477-6565 Case# Karen Hanover 318E-LA-256665</p>
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		<title>By: Scamover is Scum</title>
		<link>http://www.duncanwierman.com/blog/in-the-news/karen-hanover-suckered-1000s-commercial-short-sale-launch/comment-page-60/#comment-6928</link>
		<dc:creator>Scamover is Scum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2011 17:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rebecca,

(If you&#039;re comfortable telling us), how many victims have contacted you?  Thanks!</description>
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<p>Rebecca,</p>
<p>(If you&#8217;re comfortable telling us), how many victims have contacted you?  Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Scamover is Scum</title>
		<link>http://www.duncanwierman.com/blog/in-the-news/karen-hanover-suckered-1000s-commercial-short-sale-launch/comment-page-60/#comment-6927</link>
		<dc:creator>Scamover is Scum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2011 17:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kudos to all those whose efforts helped uncover this fraud and will (hopefully) bring this scumbag to justice, especially Duncan and Rebecca who worked tirelessly!!  Rebecca, please keep us posted with the court updates if you can make it.</description>
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<p>Kudos to all those whose efforts helped uncover this fraud and will (hopefully) bring this scumbag to justice, especially Duncan and Rebecca who worked tirelessly!!  Rebecca, please keep us posted with the court updates if you can make it.</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.duncanwierman.com/blog/in-the-news/karen-hanover-suckered-1000s-commercial-short-sale-launch/comment-page-60/#comment-6920</link>
		<dc:creator>Rebecca Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2011 02:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KAREN HANOVER THIS MESSAGE IS TO YOU! I HAVE ALREADY INFORMED THE FBI THAT I BELEIVE YOU HAVE GOTTEN INTO MY EMAIL ACCOUNT. YOU ARE ONLT BRINGING ON MORE CHARGES FOR YOURSELF. THE FBI IS LOOKING INTO IT JUST LIKE THEY DID WHEN YOU SPOOFED ME. SO, YOU BETTER HOPE YOU ARE NOT OR HAVE NOT BEEN IN MY ACCOUNT AND THAT STRANGE THINGS LIKE DELETED MAIL HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU!</description>
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<p>KAREN HANOVER THIS MESSAGE IS TO YOU! I HAVE ALREADY INFORMED THE FBI THAT I BELEIVE YOU HAVE GOTTEN INTO MY EMAIL ACCOUNT. YOU ARE ONLT BRINGING ON MORE CHARGES FOR YOURSELF. THE FBI IS LOOKING INTO IT JUST LIKE THEY DID WHEN YOU SPOOFED ME. SO, YOU BETTER HOPE YOU ARE NOT OR HAVE NOT BEEN IN MY ACCOUNT AND THAT STRANGE THINGS LIKE DELETED MAIL HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU!</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.duncanwierman.com/blog/in-the-news/karen-hanover-suckered-1000s-commercial-short-sale-launch/comment-page-60/#comment-6907</link>
		<dc:creator>Rebecca Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 22:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ALERT!! If anyone has also been solicitated for simular real estate investments from a Realtor in California by the name of Roark Merrill please contact me asap. This is a friend and neighbor of KAREN HANOVERS. As you should all be aware of: KAREN HANOVER is NOT allowed to be solicitating any kind of real estate investments while under investigation ( and that would imply her going through others ). Anyone not aware of other fraudulant activities Karen Hanover has been up to click the link below and also go to Duncan Wiermans Wordpress blog. 

www.ripoffreport.com/.../dr-andrea-buck-karen-hanover-fc2e...</description>
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<p>ALERT!! If anyone has also been solicitated for simular real estate investments from a Realtor in California by the name of Roark Merrill please contact me asap. This is a friend and neighbor of KAREN HANOVERS. As you should all be aware of: KAREN HANOVER is NOT allowed to be solicitating any kind of real estate investments while under investigation ( and that would imply her going through others ). Anyone not aware of other fraudulant activities Karen Hanover has been up to click the link below and also go to Duncan Wiermans WordPress blog. </p>
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