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		<title>By: Simon White</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 08:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have personally tested squeeze pages/landing pages and a fully developed website. I find that a well written, well designed website far out performs a squeeze page. They use of video I find helpful for conversion. Some of the squeeze pages in the SIMS system are very basic
but I can not say they don&#039;t work because I have not tried them.
One thing I will say, you have almost no chance of optimizing them for organic search as they have too little content. You will be stuck with driving traffic with PPC,Craigslist and other none SEO approaches.

I do Website design and SEO for several real estate people including myself we just concentrate on good design,great articles and solid SEO.

PS. I am a Platinum Member of Duncan&#039;s membership site, it is some of the best education out there for Online and Offline Marketing.
I am also a member of several other Internet Marketing communities.
Dollar for dollar Duncan&#039;s advise is the best there is for Online Marketing of Real Estate.</description>
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<p>I have personally tested squeeze pages/landing pages and a fully developed website. I find that a well written, well designed website far out performs a squeeze page. They use of video I find helpful for conversion. Some of the squeeze pages in the SIMS system are very basic<br />
but I can not say they don&#8217;t work because I have not tried them.<br />
One thing I will say, you have almost no chance of optimizing them for organic search as they have too little content. You will be stuck with driving traffic with PPC,Craigslist and other none SEO approaches.</p>
<p>I do Website design and SEO for several real estate people including myself we just concentrate on good design,great articles and solid SEO.</p>
<p>PS. I am a Platinum Member of Duncan&#8217;s membership site, it is some of the best education out there for Online and Offline Marketing.<br />
I am also a member of several other Internet Marketing communities.<br />
Dollar for dollar Duncan&#8217;s advise is the best there is for Online Marketing of Real Estate.</p>
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		<title>By: jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 16:35:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for rapid response.  Give me the links to your system please.  I&#039;d like to learn more.  

I agree 100% that the Squeeze is only one method.  After I posted that I thought I&#039;d combine the direct marketing 50/50 with my blog to generate leads and test them both for response in an email campaign.  Its all about leads.  No leads? no business.  

To answer your question: I am looking for seller leads.  I am confident we can sell the properties thru MLS and CL as long as its priced aggressively.  

I&#039;d like to build a buyers list too but the only real buyers lists are wholesale lists (landlords) and they want cash flow poperties.  i have a strategy for flipping REOs but i cant get into that right now.  Want to get good at one thing first.</description>
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<p>Thanks for rapid response.  Give me the links to your system please.  I&#8217;d like to learn more.  </p>
<p>I agree 100% that the Squeeze is only one method.  After I posted that I thought I&#8217;d combine the direct marketing 50/50 with my blog to generate leads and test them both for response in an email campaign.  Its all about leads.  No leads? no business.  </p>
<p>To answer your question: I am looking for seller leads.  I am confident we can sell the properties thru MLS and CL as long as its priced aggressively.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to build a buyers list too but the only real buyers lists are wholesale lists (landlords) and they want cash flow poperties.  i have a strategy for flipping REOs but i cant get into that right now.  Want to get good at one thing first.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 16:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff has a good website system. Like any system, it needs to be tweaked and marketed.  That is why I have my course on internet marketing for real estate to go along with it.  you can really use any website using my system. I howeve prefer to use his websites utilizing my marketing. 

Yes, Sqz pages have value, BUT how you deploy them and the design is critical. Sqz pages are just ONE method of capturing leads.  If your SQZ page gives them enough information (instead of just a form and a blurb of text) that they will opt in . FINE. But marketing is marketing, which means all methods have to be 
TESTED, TRACKED and TWEAKED on a daily basis!   Your strategy would have to have GOOD Seo, good content, (try for an excellent PPC Quality score) but it sounds like you are trying to market two strategies.. one as an affiliate for a company and one for your real estate busines.   I would just FOCUS.. NICHE everything with good content.</description>
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<p>Jeff has a good website system. Like any system, it needs to be tweaked and marketed.  That is why I have my course on internet marketing for real estate to go along with it.  you can really use any website using my system. I howeve prefer to use his websites utilizing my marketing. </p>
<p>Yes, Sqz pages have value, BUT how you deploy them and the design is critical. Sqz pages are just ONE method of capturing leads.  If your SQZ page gives them enough information (instead of just a form and a blurb of text) that they will opt in . FINE. But marketing is marketing, which means all methods have to be<br />
TESTED, TRACKED and TWEAKED on a daily basis!   Your strategy would have to have GOOD Seo, good content, (try for an excellent PPC Quality score) but it sounds like you are trying to market two strategies.. one as an affiliate for a company and one for your real estate busines.   I would just FOCUS.. NICHE everything with good content.</p>
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		<title>By: jim</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 15:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I knew the SIMS thing was going to make a lot of money...for the sellers of the system.  they made a real effort to deliver tons of cds and material but I have had many investors tell me that its crap.  I would like to know more about Jeff Adams.  An Client Attorney in NC speaks highly of him and she suggested I look into his lead system.   

In your opinion, do squeeze pages have ANY value? 
i.e email marketing to homeowners and directing them to a squeeze page for a free report?  My idea is this...

Email campaign to homeowners directing them to squeeze page 
after submission it directs them to Blog which offers tons of free information AND a chance to speak live with a loss mitigation counselor (I have a company that processes loan mods and short sales for Attorneys) to discuss their scenario if they submit their FULL contact information and a short questionairre.  It also offers buyers to join a list of preforeclosure and REO Homes by signing up online.  Included on the blog page is a link to my professional website for buyers and sellers. 

How would this work in Google?</description>
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<p>I knew the SIMS thing was going to make a lot of money&#8230;for the sellers of the system.  they made a real effort to deliver tons of cds and material but I have had many investors tell me that its crap.  I would like to know more about Jeff Adams.  An Client Attorney in NC speaks highly of him and she suggested I look into his lead system.   </p>
<p>In your opinion, do squeeze pages have ANY value?<br />
i.e email marketing to homeowners and directing them to a squeeze page for a free report?  My idea is this&#8230;</p>
<p>Email campaign to homeowners directing them to squeeze page<br />
after submission it directs them to Blog which offers tons of free information AND a chance to speak live with a loss mitigation counselor (I have a company that processes loan mods and short sales for Attorneys) to discuss their scenario if they submit their FULL contact information and a short questionairre.  It also offers buyers to join a list of preforeclosure and REO Homes by signing up online.  Included on the blog page is a link to my professional website for buyers and sellers. </p>
<p>How would this work in Google?</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 21:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Addition comments.  -  You can not market your real estate business like you would an information product on the internet .  Squidoo and Hub pages??  Come on..
I have tested in numerous ways, using A/B split testing, multivariate testing and these page show NO increase in traffic for finding hungry buyers or even motivated sellers.   Jeff Walker is an internet marketer ( and a good one ) but his methods are NOT the way to promote your credibility for a real estate business.  Yes, Greg has some traditional deas, blogs, videos, etc.. but nothing that is earth shattering or even advanced in my opinion for the price. The squeeze pages that he has are NOT a Google friendly quality score. The cost to do PPC on these sites would be very expensive.  I hate to see new real estate investor who are not being fed information that I feel is beneficial for its price!</description>
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<p>Addition comments.  &#8211;  You can not market your real estate business like you would an information product on the internet .  Squidoo and Hub pages??  Come on..<br />
I have tested in numerous ways, using A/B split testing, multivariate testing and these page show NO increase in traffic for finding hungry buyers or even motivated sellers.   Jeff Walker is an internet marketer ( and a good one ) but his methods are NOT the way to promote your credibility for a real estate business.  Yes, Greg has some traditional deas, blogs, videos, etc.. but nothing that is earth shattering or even advanced in my opinion for the price. The squeeze pages that he has are NOT a Google friendly quality score. The cost to do PPC on these sites would be very expensive.  I hate to see new real estate investor who are not being fed information that I feel is beneficial for its price!</p>
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		<title>By: Janice Bell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janice Bell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 21:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Duncan:
As you know am a coach for Jeff&#039;s program.  Thank you for explaining how his system works and how it integrates with what you teach. Really that is all you need. 
Students are really confused about all the systems that come out.  I am going to send my students to this comment string because you have laid it out in all honesty.
Janice Bell
students@energywiseproperties.com</description>
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<p>Duncan:<br />
As you know am a coach for Jeff&#8217;s program.  Thank you for explaining how his system works and how it integrates with what you teach. Really that is all you need.<br />
Students are really confused about all the systems that come out.  I am going to send my students to this comment string because you have laid it out in all honesty.<br />
Janice Bell<br />
<a href="mailto:students@energywiseproperties.com">students@energywiseproperties.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: David Pylyp</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Pylyp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 21:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good article and exchange of ideas.

No piece is complete &quot;out of the box&quot; Each website, blog, landing page needs to be tailored to fit the individual agent.

Their website reflects their experience and knowledge of the market as well as localism (Neighbourhood).

If ranking on Google can be purchased based on following the hard learned lessons of others I am all for it,  because I know that I spend 3 - 4 hours daily looking reading and organizing thoughts for differents posts or ideas in progress.

Do not forget the most basic tenant,  Your website must have content worthy of your readership. If the SEO is perfect and you adwords have huge &quot;clickage&quot;  it is meaningless if they arrive at a barrem store front.

If you have someone coming to Toronto  Look me up!
David Pylyp
http://DavidPylyp.com</description>
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<p>Good article and exchange of ideas.</p>
<p>No piece is complete &#8220;out of the box&#8221; Each website, blog, landing page needs to be tailored to fit the individual agent.</p>
<p>Their website reflects their experience and knowledge of the market as well as localism (Neighbourhood).</p>
<p>If ranking on Google can be purchased based on following the hard learned lessons of others I am all for it,  because I know that I spend 3 &#8211; 4 hours daily looking reading and organizing thoughts for differents posts or ideas in progress.</p>
<p>Do not forget the most basic tenant,  Your website must have content worthy of your readership. If the SEO is perfect and you adwords have huge &#8220;clickage&#8221;  it is meaningless if they arrive at a barrem store front.</p>
<p>If you have someone coming to Toronto  Look me up!<br />
David Pylyp<br />
<a href="http://DavidPylyp.com" rel="nofollow">http://DavidPylyp.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dujuana</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 04:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah it is all about as clear as mud to me!  I try, but it really starts to make my brain ache after awhile.  That is one of the things I love about you...your bratty nonconformist stance!  I am like that as well, but have fallen into lemming status much to my own dismay recently.  Please help STOP THE INSANITY and the bleeding of cash!

I can handle 30 minutes a day.  I work a lot, but can find time for 30 minutes every day.  I have pretty much left my Jeff Adams site as is since I am really not so sure how to change/work/maximize them.  

I don&#039;t have your direct email.  info@1866sellyourhouse.com  You can email your reply here.  

Thanks Duncan!

Dujuana</description>
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<p>Yeah it is all about as clear as mud to me!  I try, but it really starts to make my brain ache after awhile.  That is one of the things I love about you&#8230;your bratty nonconformist stance!  I am like that as well, but have fallen into lemming status much to my own dismay recently.  Please help STOP THE INSANITY and the bleeding of cash!</p>
<p>I can handle 30 minutes a day.  I work a lot, but can find time for 30 minutes every day.  I have pretty much left my Jeff Adams site as is since I am really not so sure how to change/work/maximize them.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have your direct email.  <a href="mailto:info@1866sellyourhouse.com">info@1866sellyourhouse.com</a>  You can email your reply here.  </p>
<p>Thanks Duncan!</p>
<p>Dujuana</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<description>I understand and most people are confused about internet marketing and that is why I am so outspoken about it and what works and does not work.  

How much time do you have to apply to marketing your business. In my course, I teach you how to maximize Jeffs system, and put you on a 30 day marketing plan where you will spend 30 minutes a day on marketing.

Yes, I do teach you how to have your VA do this too, BUT first you have to know how to do it before you can manage and track their activity.

If you take a look at Jeffs system, and my course together.. it has everything you need!  You don&#039;t need anything else.  You just need to apply yourself!  

Email me direct for more info using the contact form .

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<p>I understand and most people are confused about internet marketing and that is why I am so outspoken about it and what works and does not work.  </p>
<p>How much time do you have to apply to marketing your business. In my course, I teach you how to maximize Jeffs system, and put you on a 30 day marketing plan where you will spend 30 minutes a day on marketing.</p>
<p>Yes, I do teach you how to have your VA do this too, BUT first you have to know how to do it before you can manage and track their activity.</p>
<p>If you take a look at Jeffs system, and my course together.. it has everything you need!  You don&#8217;t need anything else.  You just need to apply yourself!  </p>
<p>Email me direct for more info using the contact form .</p>
<p>Duncan</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 23:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks so much for your feedback.  I am so confused with everything!  I need my stuff to be integrated and work seamlessly, but can&#039;t seem to get it together myself.  I am not tech illiterate, but a gadget girl/geek wannabe.  Can you teach me how to teach a VA to run all this stuff for me?  Geeze!  It gives me such a headache trying to put 1+2 together and have it come out to 5!!!  I have tried to tweak keyword tools myself, and have had a little success.  I really need my leads to come in from 2 specific states and 2 specific cities within those states for now.  Not working 100%.  Most of the leads I get that call in are from TX.  I never marketed to Texas!  How do I make this all work for ME!?

Can Jeff&#039;s team change up my website so it doesn&#039;t look like a template anymore?  I did have a simple logo made and would like my site to match.  I know you don&#039;t work for Jeff, but see that you have much knowledge of his websites and fixes...so thanks for answering the questions.  

If your course helps me get this stuff all organized and working properly, I will accept your challenge and give you the greatest testimonial EVER!  I am ready to pull my hair out ovuh heeeuh.  

To answer your question: &quot;....why do you think you need Realflow?...&quot;  I need the integration of leads, calls, websites, lead capture sites all integrated without me having to do all the set up and figure out how to make it work myself.  Like a biz in a box..just plug it in kinda of a thing.  I don&#039;t have loads of time or ...God forbid!...patience.  Can you save me from myself Duncan?  I am so ready to quit my &quot;job&quot;, even though I am self employed, by next year.  HELP!

Thanks again

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<p>Thanks so much for your feedback.  I am so confused with everything!  I need my stuff to be integrated and work seamlessly, but can&#8217;t seem to get it together myself.  I am not tech illiterate, but a gadget girl/geek wannabe.  Can you teach me how to teach a VA to run all this stuff for me?  Geeze!  It gives me such a headache trying to put 1+2 together and have it come out to 5!!!  I have tried to tweak keyword tools myself, and have had a little success.  I really need my leads to come in from 2 specific states and 2 specific cities within those states for now.  Not working 100%.  Most of the leads I get that call in are from TX.  I never marketed to Texas!  How do I make this all work for ME!?</p>
<p>Can Jeff&#8217;s team change up my website so it doesn&#8217;t look like a template anymore?  I did have a simple logo made and would like my site to match.  I know you don&#8217;t work for Jeff, but see that you have much knowledge of his websites and fixes&#8230;so thanks for answering the questions.  </p>
<p>If your course helps me get this stuff all organized and working properly, I will accept your challenge and give you the greatest testimonial EVER!  I am ready to pull my hair out ovuh heeeuh.  </p>
<p>To answer your question: &#8220;&#8230;.why do you think you need Realflow?&#8230;&#8221;  I need the integration of leads, calls, websites, lead capture sites all integrated without me having to do all the set up and figure out how to make it work myself.  Like a biz in a box..just plug it in kinda of a thing.  I don&#8217;t have loads of time or &#8230;God forbid!&#8230;patience.  Can you save me from myself Duncan?  I am so ready to quit my &#8220;job&#8221;, even though I am self employed, by next year.  HELP!</p>
<p>Thanks again</p>
<p>Dujuana</p>
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