{"id":873,"date":"2007-11-29T10:49:04","date_gmt":"2007-11-29T15:49:04","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.DuncanWierman.com\/content\/when-and-how-to-negotiations-to-your-benefit\/"},"modified":"2007-11-29T10:51:23","modified_gmt":"2007-11-29T15:51:23","slug":"when-and-how-to-negotiation-to-your-benefit","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.duncanwierman.com\/content\/when-and-how-to-negotiation-to-your-benefit\/","title":{"rendered":"How and When To Negotiate To Your Benefit"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>Negotiating for Your Interest<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Many of us subscribe to the Old  West credo that a deal is finished when both parties shake hands on it. If  that&#8217;s your way of thinking, then be prepared to get skinned alive when you buy  real estate. The modern credo is &#8220;Never stop negotiating&#8221;&#8211;even after the deal  is signed, even after escrow has opened, even after escrow has closed and title  has passed to you. If you truly want to look out for your own interests, you  won&#8217;t stop negotiating!<\/p>\n<p>Yes, this is a bit of an exaggeration.  Nevertheless, those who do get the best deals in real estate are often those who  keep right on negotiating as long as, so to speak, there&#8217;s anything left on the  table.  The below post will help you do better on every deal<!--more--><!--fms--><\/p>\n<p><strong>Negotiate as Part of Making an Offer<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The entire  process of making an offer involves negotiation. You purchase a house at a  certain price for specified terms, including contingencies that allow you to  back out in certain circumstances. The sellers read you offer and then either  accept or, more likely, counter at a different price and with different terms,  perhaps eliminating some of your contingencies and modifying others by limiting  them for example, in terms of time. Thus the sellers may agree that you can have  an inspection, but you must approve the report within, say, 14 days.<\/p>\n<p>Back and forth it goes with counteroffers, and counters to the  counteroffers and counters to the counter to the counteroffers. This is the  negotiation process and, depending on how good you are at it, you&#8217;ll get a  better or<br \/>\nworse deal.<\/p>\n<p>If you get a deal that&#8217;s acceptable to you and  is the best you feel you can get, and if the same is true for the sellers,  there&#8217;s agreement and everyone signs. The presumption is that the deal is made.<\/p>\n<p>Don&#8217;t count on it.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Negotiate Over the Disclosures<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A wise buyer knows that the really tough negotiations frequently don&#8217;t  start until after the deal is signed. Usually the next negotiation takes place  over the disclosures. Within a few days of signing, you should receive a list of  defects in the property as revealed by the sellers. (If you get the list before  negotiation start, then this point is moot.)<\/p>\n<p>If your offer was properly  filled out (or if your state gives you rights here), you now can back out of the  deal without penalty. If something seriously wrong is revealed, you may want to  simply say no, take back your<br \/>\ndeposit, and move on.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Or you may  want to negotiate some more.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>You do this by letting the sellers know  (through their agent, if they have one) that you disapprove of the disclosures  because of the problem(s) they reveal. However, you&#8217;re willing to go through  with the deal if the sellers either repair the problem or reduce the price. If  it&#8217;s price you want, you indicate what you consider to be a fair price  (sometimes a figure significantly lower than what was originally agreed upon),  and negotiations begin again.<\/p>\n<p>Typically the sellers will balk, but  if they want to sell and there is a problem, they very likely will counter your  offer. Back and forth it goes until both parties feel they can live with the  same set of terms. If something significant was revealed in the disclosures (or  if you said that, in you view, what was revealed was important), you may get a  significant price reduction or better terms.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Negotiate Over the Home  Inspection<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The next negotiation frequently occurs over the results  of the home inspection.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s rare that a home inspection, even of a  brand new home, will reveal nothing. <em>Usually there&#8217;s something<\/em>, even if it&#8217;s  just leaking faucets. Depending on the severity of the problem(s) discovered,  savvy buyers now open negotiations all over again.<\/p>\n<p>How can you do  this? Remember, a good inspection clause is actually a contingency that, in  effect, makes the purchase subject to the buyer&#8217;s approving the inspection  report. You don&#8217;t approve. There&#8217;s no deal\u2014unless the seller is willing to come  down in price or up in terms.<\/p>\n<p>Keep in mind that problems such as these  usually arise two weeks or so after the deal was originally signed. During those  two weeks the sellers have begun making plans to move. They may even have put  down a deposit and made a deal on another home. They are counting on your deal  going through.<\/p>\n<p>Now, suddenly, there&#8217;s a hitch. As the buyer, you are  balking at something that came up in the inspection. You can bet that the  sellers are going to be eager to smooth over the problem, if they can. I&#8217;ve seen  deals where the price was knocked down $3,500 to handle a problem with paint,  $17,000 for a problem with a roof, and $35,000 to accommodate a problem with the  structure.<\/p>\n<p>Why would the sellers be so accommodating? It&#8217;s not that they  want to. It\u2019s just that once a problem is revealed, it will have to be dealt  with one way or another, either with you or with other buyers. It might as well  be you, since you&#8217;re already involved in the deal.<\/p>\n<p>Further, seller  sometimes simply get desperate to sell, Although they were adamantly against  lowering their price or giving you a better deal during the initial  negotiations, now they simply lay down and roll over. I&#8217;ve seen it happen.<\/p>\n<p>You may negotiate a cash settlement without actually having a disclosure  problem corrected, provided the lender doesn&#8217;t object. For example, the seller s  may lower the price $5,000 over a leaking roof. However, instead of replacing  the roof, you have it patched for $500 and pocket the difference (at least until  the next rainstorm).<\/p>\n<p><strong>Negotiate During Escrow<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Some buyers  with a lot of what might be called gall negotiate right through escrow. As the  sellers get more and more used to the idea of their home being sold, the buyers  keep coming up with new concerns that can be resolved only by further  concessions from the sellers.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve heard buyers say that they drove by  and became aware that the window trim was damaged. They then wanted several  hundred dollars off the price to have it fixed. If not, they would simply hold  off on buying the home. Yes, these buyers stand a chance of losing their deposit  (and more), but the sellers won&#8217;t get it either without going to court. In the  meantime, the sellers&#8217; house is tied up. It simply becomes easier for the  sellers to acquiesce than to fight.<\/p>\n<p>In a very slow market, buyers  may demand a reduction in price because of market conditions. They simply tell  the sellers that prices are going down. The house is no longer worth what is was  when the offer was accepted. Either the sellers accommodate with a lower price  or the buyers refuse the deal.<\/p>\n<p>Once again, the sellers have options,  none of them particularly good in a down market. And many will acquiesce to  placate an irritable buyer.<\/p>\n<p>The sellers could refuse a buyer&#8217;s new  terms, then demand the deposit, or even demand specific performance (the buyer  either goes through with the purchase or, more likely, pays damages). But few  sellers really want to go to court and fewer actually do. Buyer with gall and  the willingness to risk a lot have pulled off some amazing deals in this  fashion.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Negotiate After You Own the Property<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>It is  possible to get a better deal even after the escrow has closed and you take  possession of the property. This frequently happens when buyers find something  amiss, and demand that sellers make it good.<\/p>\n<p>In one case, the buyers  discovered after they moved in that the sellers had allowed their pets to run  wild over much of the home. A urine smell permeated the wall-to-wall carpeting  in several rooms. The smell had not been detected earlier because the  windows were always open when the buyers inspected the property. Further, the  sellers had failed to disclose this problem.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s important to  understand that animal urine in carpeting cannot really be removed. The smell  will remain, often permeating the padding and even the flooring beneath.<\/p>\n<p>The buyers demanded that the sellers replace not just the carpeting in  the rooms with the problem, but also the carpeting throughout the house, since  it was all of a kind. They said it wouldn&#8217;t look right to have just a few rooms  fixed. After conferring with their agent, the sellers agreed.<\/p>\n<p>Then the  buyers picked out the carpeting, which was valued at close to $15,000,  installed. The sellers balked, but when confronted with the cost and possible  outcome if the matter went to litigation, they sent the buyers a check for that  amount.<\/p>\n<p>As long as there are problems, you can negotiate with the  sellers. In some cases, even if the problem is something you imagine, you can  still negotiate and win concessions simply because the sellers don&#8217;t want to  bother with the nuisance.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Remember, to paraphrase Yogi Berra, the  deal isn&#8217;t over until it&#8217;s over.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Don&#8217;t pressure sellers too far. If  you insist on unreasonable demands, they may simply refuse and buckle down,  ready to fight you legally. That could mean you&#8217;d lose the house and have legal  problems to boot.<!--\/fms--><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Negotiating for Your Interest Many of us subscribe to the Old West credo that a deal is finished when both parties shake hands on it. If that&#8217;s your way of thinking, then be prepared to get skinned alive when you buy real estate. 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